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[–] shalafi 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm 52. Guess what we had and didn't have when I was a kid.

  • Plenty of guns, and even laxer laws (excepting conceal carry!).

  • No mass shootings.

To be fair, I should include the mental health thing. I remember watching MTv as a teen in the late 80's and they made a big thing of homelessness. I figured it had always been an issue but people ignored it and, as a kid, I was just then finding out.

Yeah, turns out we shut down our mental health centers. Probably a correlation there.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Let's not forget crushing the middle and lower classes, taking away things for them to live for. That doesn't cause you to hear voices but it certainly can't help.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you could have said less mass shootings
No mass shootings though, that's not true at all

[–] shalafi -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you look at that link?! Scrolling through this century, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll...

And let's define "mass shooting". We have to at least agree that the definition is all over the place, and wildly different. And not, the wildly liberal source Mother Jones is on the far left. :) 6 or 818?

And I'm not hammering a technicality. What we think when we think "mass shooting" is clearly on the left of the chart.

Anyhow, shootings are clearly worse, despite more guns laws. (Excepting conceal carry laws! The gun people won't admit it, but those laws have exploded!)

[–] maryjayjay 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's your point? I literally can't figure it out

[–] shalafi -1 points 1 year ago

We had far fewer mass shootings? I think I did a poor job trying to convey that.