VLemmy Chat

I'm new here (literally got approved 6 minutes ago) and as a culture creator my opinion might be skewed but:

Much of the point of loli and shota is that as a design model it's a "in the eyes of the beholder" thing. It is, basically, characters who are made to look "like children" despite their age, but this "like" is much of the problem, where (when) does exactly a "child" end? Whose definition are we using? How does it account for values dissonance for art that was made years, maybe decades ago? Trying to go into a blocking stance with hard lines that are too tightly defined only really benefits christofascists, antis and that "ilk".

It's the same problem that happens with antis and purist that are all yell about "nudes" and "female presenting nipples" yet they conveniently do gymnastics around the fact that the female body is natural and present in art since the Greek and Roman times thosr christofascists "cherish" so much. Ultimately it harms people who discuss culture and creation more than it hurts any sort of would-be purist.

There's another factor that there's a difference between a character being a loli / shota which is a matter of art/design and it is ultimately one facet of afictional character, versus a show or a work being loli / shota, which involves not only the characters but the narrative elements and the plot going about so it's a wider gamut of "things that can go wrong". My limited understanding is the latter is pr0n but the former isn't, but I'm open to being mistaken.

All in all from that perspective, I'd be Fine But Careful about defederating from instances allowing loli / shota. They might be doing it for the pr0n, but also for a matter of Open Culture, "first they came for the minority" et al. I'd prefer a lighter step to be taken first, something like Mastodon's suspend / mute (where you don't block the connection but also you don't advertise / forward it), but my understanding is ATM this kind of platform don't have such option.