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It’s as dangerous as you want it to be. That’s the part your tiny brain cannot grasp.
Some people suck terribly at risk management and clearly you’re in that category.
Sounds reckless to me. But then again you don’t understand risk management.
You don't understand accidents. A sudden unexpected ice patch can send someone down hard. A build-up of soft snow without good support underneath can create an invisible pit that can be fallen into.
I skied and snowboarded for over a decade, and was considered quite good, and the only reason I don't do it these days is I don't live near a hill.
But I am smart enough to acknowledge there are plenty of risks, and it is possible to get seriously injured or die as a result of the sport even if you work hard to eliminate those risks.
You're stupid statement that it's perfectly safe is the exact idiotic statement that gets people killed, because it makes it sound like there is no risk.
“Perfectly safe”. So you’re just going to fabricate lies to win some dumb argument? Considering I never said that it just means you’re lying.
Usually when someone needs to bring hyperbole to an argument it means they lost.
You keep pretending your friends death was some freak accident that couldn’t have been avoided instead of just accepting that if they executed better judgement they’d still be alive.
If you have even half the experience you claim you have you would know there is absolutely no reason to be moving at fatal speeds without ignoring the blatant danger. That’s a choice not an accident.
People don’t just fall over and die skiing as if they got struck by lightening.
You know who make up the majority of skiing accidents? That’s right, people who ignore danger signs, and ski off main trails for the thrills, and end up getting stuck under an avalanche, or the other million things that can kill you when you’re not skiing on main trails. That’s not normal skiing; that’s high risk activity and it’s what contributes to the majority of the statistics you’re firing off without understanding them.
If you’re doing the right thing there is no reason to get wrapped around a tree unless you’re skiing in a place you shouldn’t be.
It was.
5 MPH is a fatal speed if you fall wrong. Any speed above pizza on bunny hill can be fatal. How are you too daft to understand that?
Still doesn't account for the over 100 people a year who die from actually normal skiing.
There are other ways to die skiing.
God, you're blind.
No one is dying from falling down on a groomed trail at 5 mph.
You are too dumb for your own good.
I've hit sudden ice on groomed trails and fell and hit my head, one can definitely die from that.
One can die slipping in their tub while taking a shower.
If you can’t see the difference between that and taking unnecessary risks then it’s obvious you are too dumb for your own good.
It’s quite clear your friend wasn’t skiing on standard groomed trails, just admit it already.
They were skiing on groomed trails, with their parents who were making sure they stayed on groomed trails. Groomed trails still have trees around them.
It's quite clear you don't understand even the most basic of skihills or physics.
And you still haven't explained the well over 100 deaths and 100,000 injuries that result from normal, not reckless skiing each year. Please, explain why those numbers are so high, even though you say no one could ever get injured or die skiing normal trails?
You want me to explain some statistic you’re pulling out of your ass? Wow you really got me there chief.
Explain how someone misses a turn and speeds off a cliff out of control into a tree if they are skiing on a groomed trail without doing something wrong? Your bullshit story doesn’t add up.
When did I say cliff? I said the snow built up near the trees creating a pit that could be fallen into. They missed a turn and fell into said pit.
Do you honestly not know of treeside pits in snow? They are very common, and actually quite dangerous.
And a simple web search will turn up those statistics for you.
Again how do you miss a turn on a groomed trail?
Sounds like you just don’t want to admit she was on a hill she couldn’t handle or was going too fast due to inexperience.
Lose control.
Also if someone inexperienced tries to play basketball too fast or hard the chances of death are virtually zero.
Not the case for skiing.
Skiing is not as safe as you claim.
I don't know why you won't stop. Hundreds of people die each year, more than just about any other sport.
Simple google search returns:
WOW dawg you totally got me. Skiing is soooo dangerous that a whopping 57 people die a year skiing. That’s out of a million skiers. Majority of which died NOT on groomed trails but from avalanches, and skiing in dangerous areas. More people choke to death a year than skiing accidents.
Ya skiing is pretty damn safe as long as your aren’t doing dumb shit. The statistics prove it. Freak accidents happen but they can happen any where any time in any sport or activity. Using a freak accident to claim an entire sport is dangerous is nonsense.
So far you’ve been trying to convince me that skiing is unsafe but so far you’ve failed spectacularly. You are wrong and won’t admit it.
Just admit it your friend was being careless, which contributes to the vast majority of ski deaths annually.
That's the numbers for the US only. Worldwide its 600.
More people eat each year than ski.
Way more people play basketball, and lots of people do dumb shit and play recklessly, but I can't find a single death as a result of playing basketball in my searches. Not even due to freak accidents.
Skiing is perfectly safe if you just use bunny hills, and ski really slowly. Anything else comes with a small, but real chance of dying.
World wide only means an even larger sample. That’s a small amount of deaths per year if that’s world wide.
Stick to groomed trails and slow the fuck down. The chances of dying are minuscule unless you start doing dumb shit. The statistics back it up.
And if you look back at all my posts I never once said skiing was dangerous, I just said accident though rare due happen, and people do die.
Prospective skiers and new skiers need to be aware of this to keep them safe, and pretending accidents don't happen, or only happen if you're "reckless" is not true and just puts these people in danger.
No but you spent the entire time saying “skiing isn’t as safe as you claim it to be”.
Well I am claiming that skiing is pretty damn safe as long as you aren’t being reckless.
The statistics prove it.
Because you kept claiming no one ever dies or gets hurt skiing unless they're reckless.
That is not true, and you finally admitted it a few posts ago.
You're original claims were definitely false.
Wrong. You’re just highly confused.
I’ll paste your original comment:
So again, don’t speed downhill and you won’t lose control and hit a tree.
My claims are the same and have never changed. Unless you’re being reckless the chances of dying is slim to none. Again, the statistics agree with me so it’s about time you shut the fuck up already since you can’t admit you’re wrong. You have similar odds of being struck by lightening. Again, unless you’re being reckless and skiing off the main trails.
The hilarious part here is you’re trying to use statistics to win a fight you already lost and the same statistics you’re using is only proving me right.
Keep going tho this is funny shit.
I’ll say it again. Skiing is pretty damn safe unless you’re an idiot.