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More than 3,500 employees to take part in nationwide strike, led by company’s Seattle Roastery

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

like Target, corporate simple doesn't want to deal with the possible lost business of nutbags boycotting starbucks over a few pride flags in the store.

or maybe the drama of said nutbags coming into store and assaulting employees over it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

like Target, corporate simple doesn't want to deal with the possible lost business of nutbags boycotting starbucks over a few pride flags in the store.

Seems like a bad move considering bud light probably lost more business acquiescing to the angry homophobic mob than they did from the original boycott.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I'd even venture to say that capitulating to terrorists makes them more bold.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Link is busted

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Target and Starbucks are (understandably, IMO) bowing to violent threats against their employees and customers. There's not enough nuts out there to make a boycott actually impact their profit margin, and if there was it would be obvious to the other side that would probably more than offset any effort. Rainbow Capitalism wouldn't exist if that wasn't the case.

But there are enough nuts out there to make good on their threats of violence. We've already seen those threats carried out many times, so it's not just some hypothetical possibility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I think that Walmart employee that was murdered by and anti-mask but really opened people's eyes to how real domestic terrorism is in the US to these companies. Whether they're doing this because they want to protect their employees or want to stop backlash against them is still up for debate, but either way it's clear that terrorism works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I 100% consider myself an ally of the lgbtq+ community.

Its just not worth putting a target on your employees back these days. Lunatics coming in, harassing and assaulting minimum age workers because of colors on the wall.

Employees think they want it.. but they aren't prepared for the backlash that would ensue (nor should they, they're baristas for fuck sake).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Acquiescing makes the queer community more vulnerable and many of these employees are themselves queer.

Standing up to hate is the correct thing. Rubbing your position in bigot's faces is the correct thing. Pulling a Gary Bettman and pretending anti-queer hate is something which can be ignored away is taking the side of and emboldening oppression.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How can you ask our baristas and target employees to do the right thing when our police, politicians, etc. can not?

Security guards were shot in the head at convenient stores for asking customers to mask up during the pandemic. I don't expect the 16 year old kid making my coffee to stand up to a right wing lunatic. Our children and minimum wage workers should not be on the front lines of human rights issues in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

So your suggestion is to embolden the fascists who would threaten 16 year olds with guns? Your solution to the location of the front line is to surrender to those who would move that line to the homes and rooms of some of these same cashiers and baristas? You think giving in to threats will make those threats go away?

The moral responsibility of all people is to oppose hate.
The responsibility for the safety of workers from attack rests with their employers.

Clearly the solution is to make the stores even gayer and pay for as much security as it takes to keep the workers safe from those who take offense.

Giving in will make everyone less safe, appeasement never works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

What I'm worried about is the engagement they're getting, I wouldn't be surprised if they went from "let's put pride stuff to produce engagement off conservatives" to "let's put pride stuff to produce engagement off conservatives and THEN take it away to produce engagement off progressives"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Here in Seattle, soooo many businesses have pride flags and the like year round. It doesn't put a target on anyone's back.