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Windows 11 keeps trying to install different stuff, notifying you about how great edge is, requires new hardware, and more. Windows 12 is rumored to be cloud only with a subscription?

What will do you?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The further into the tech world I get, the more inviting Linux seems. I manage multiple PCs for my business, and holy shit is it aggravating to have to uninstall added garbage and shut off more background processes every time there's an non optional update. The update that was deemed critical a few weeks ago to protect against whatever new virus is around seemed reasonable, until I opened OOSU and saw outside of the security update, it also happed to turn telemetry back on, gave Microsoft apps permission to use the camera and microphone, reinstalled edge, and added a new update app that's not located with other apps and can't be found by REVO. It's difficult to make it what I want, but at least it's not impossible.

The way w11 is right now, if 10 gets dropped I'm jumping ship.

I just want a familiar, easy to use, lightweight os. My partner and I both have the same laptop. Mine is my modified w10 build, theirs is the best I could do with w11. Mine starts faster, the battery lasts longer, searching and file transfer is faster, and my temps are lower. I start with 28 background processes, theirs has 73. We do roughly the same things on them, and mine is better in virtually every way.

Want to change a setting? W10 already has 2 extra unnecessary menus to go through to find what you want. W11 put two more on top of that. I tried to use teams for business communication, but the machines took such a performance hit I got rid of it, and on 11 it's permanent and "functionally necessary" even though it will never be used.

W10 claimed IE, Cortana, Edge, Xbox, and OneDrive were necessary for the OS to work, but I can rip them out and every thing still works. On 11, the menus and file explorer will disappear if you remove programs you never wanted.

There is nothing better about the newer os' than windows 7. I don't want more 'features'. I don't want more 'ease of use' garbage. I don't want app based programs and menus. I don't want device syncing and cloud backups. I want computer settings, a file explorer, and the ability to install the programs I use and nothing else. How has no company done that yet?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get yourself a cheap SSD and a usb3.2 enclosure. Use Ventoy to add ISOs to it, and you can choose the distro at boot and test them at close to installed speeds.

I've got about a dozen different distros that I'm trying out to see what's the best fit for me :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll have to give it a go soon. I'm just a bit disappointed I'll have to develop another hobby to solve a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I know that feeling.

On the bright side, apart from the initial learning curve, it's pretty straightforward, and gives you some extra skills :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Are you using Enterprise edition? Standard hardware across users? Active Directory to push a standard set of GPOs and registry edits? Most of this stuff shouldn't be that hard to manage if you have an actual environment set up to do so and not a cobbled together unmanaged mess that grew/was built ad-hoc. That said not all of us are lucky enough to have any better than ad-hoc, and Microsoft in their infinite wisdom stopped offering general desktop and server management courses that might teach this shit a few years back.

Beyond that, you should probably hold back non-security patches and updates by a few weeks to a month. That gives you time to test on a pilot machine and identify what new settings you'll have to push to client machines, and time for the internet and MS to find any issues before you have to do so yourself.