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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

“What’s the pay? Do you do drug tests?”

MINIMUM FUCKING WAGE. DRUG TESTS.

In a lot of cases if you're driving a vehicle for commercial purposes, DOT requires a pre-employment drug test. Taxi drivers are one of those, and I imagine that's the regulation he's under.

I mean, yeah he's not paying nearly enough to attract people, but the drug tests aren't entirely up to him.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's the combination that OP was taking issue with. You can't pay like shit for jobs that require drug testing.

[–] theangryseal 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This right here.

Shit fucking pay can’t possibly be combined with a drug test. Who the hell (who isn’t a felon or a junkie) would be willing to work for so little?

We’re in the middle of nowhere too. The driver would regularly have to leave the state or drive across the state.

I don’t understand the mindset of these people. He’s losing money for every patient that doesn’t get a ride through his company and he’d seriously rather let the vehicles sit. It makes no sense to me. If he paid good he’d be doing even better. Not as well as he imagines he could be doing robbing people, but still he’d be doing better.

Some joker out there will do it for shit wages and that convinces him there must be more people out there that are ok with being paid so little. He imagines how much money he could have if he’d juuuuust find 10 more suckers to rip off.

Every time I see him coming since that conversation something locks up in me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We’re in the middle of nowhere too. The driver would regularly have to leave the state or drive across the state.

How big of an area does this guy serve? Or are you close enough to a state line that this sounds farther than it is?

[–] theangryseal 4 points 8 months ago

The area he serves isn’t huge as far as population goes, but when people here have to see a specialist, there are two options. Depending on the need it’s 80 miles away or 175.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am a driver in a large metropolis for a medical diagnostics unit. I do not get drug tested, nor have I ever been in finding this employment. That "DOT requirement" is false.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about the class of driver you fall under, but bus drivers, taxi drivers, truck drivers, airline pilots and railroad employees are all required by DOT to take a drug test before employment. There are a few other cases where they are also required to have a drug test, such as after an accident.

This case sounds like a taxi, so I'd guess it falls under the rules for taxi drivers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You're referring to c class drivers.

I am a class d driver and had no such tests. Ever.

You can look this stuff up before you comment if you'd like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

There's a reason I said "in a lot of cases". I never said "in all cases" or similar.

Taxi drivers (and this case is a medical taxi) are one of the cases where it is required. Hence why I brought it up, and then you argued I was wrong because as a driver for a different sort of service it wasn't required of you. And then I named several examples where it was, including one directly relevant to this discussion, and now you're doubling down despite what kind of thing you drove having nothing to do with the point at any point.