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So the article is written by a person on the hydrogen board. Literally couldn't get any more propaganda than that.
It's not movement of hydrogen it's storage. Storage is the key to hydrogen and it's incredibly expensive to pressurize it.
https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/green-hydrogen-is-too-expensive-these-38-government-policies-are-needed-to-make-it-viable/2-1-1095533
https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2023-10-19/column-hydrogen-is-a-crucial-climate-solution-its-also-a-distraction-boiling-point
Quote from article ". In comparison, the typical loss from transferring electricity over wires to a charging station is just 5%, so you still have 95% left"
So no idea where you are getting your info
"https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2021/02/06/why-are-we-still-talking-about-hydrogen/?sh=585a44097f04"
Even applications where hydrogen has typically been considered to have a major advantage are suffering. One of those usually suggested is trucks, where range and weight capacity are paramount. But here cracks also seem to be forming in the resolve of former backers. Volkswagen’s Scania truck brand has discontinued H2 development, arguing that hydrogen is too inefficient and expensive. Previously, Scania had been one of the leading vendors of hydrogen-powered trucks. But the tripling of energy needed to propel a vehicle the same distance with hydrogen compared to batteries was the nail in the coffin for the Swedish company.
There are always alternatives. Theyight just be more spendy.
No you are naive to think this js the best humanity has to offer. You'd be saying the same thing 100 years ago.
And 100 years ago before that.
We are not the best at everything. Hydrogen has a place. But it is niche
All of your own sources are written people directly or indirectly associated by people working for the battery industry. If you are willing to go there, then I'll just accuse your sources of being total propaganda too.
Hydrogen has the lowest storage cost of any system. You store in underground salt cavern at extremely low cost. It is the cheap solution out there.
At the time of that article, VW was ran by a BEV nutcase. He has since been fired. VW is now investing in hydrogen technology. Expect a total about-face in the near future.
Hydrogen has the highest energy density of any possible energy storage technology (ignore nuclear or whatever). As a result, you cannot come up with a better idea. It is the final conclusion of energy storage systems. Everything else is inferior. Therefore, logic dictates it will eventually be the dominate solution.
Exactly. So sources are very much the crux. Although some of my sources are EU and so have slightly more cred than a professor who works for hydrogen company.
That is bullshit and you know it. Storage is expensive. Not everyone has salt caverns. And even then you need to transport it to hubs for use. So you can't store it in the middle of nowhere.
Sure I'll wait on future proof of points.
Kool you sound you've lost the battle of logic. All else is inferior. Sound argument. With no backing or proof.
Goodbye
No they aren't. They are working for the battery industry.
You're wrong again. Nearly everyone has salt caverns. It is how we store natural gas today. It is vastly cheaper and more effectively than any of the alternatives. Again, hydrogen pipelines are cheaper than wires by an order of magnitude. Moving hydrogen around is the easy part.
It's already starting to happen. But we will what VW will do in the future.
It is self-evident that hydrogen has the highest energy density of any possible chemical energy storage system. There is no way of challenge this fact. Doubting it just means you have idea what you're talking about.
Mate. Read the information. Stop spewing the same rhetoric. It's been debunked. Get on with life aye. Pointless
Sorry, but you are just proving to be a liar. And breaking the rules.
Don't be sorry. A liar. What are you on about. You spew words with no backing, yet I provided sources to back up my claims. What rules? Are you a child or ?