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The cringe thing about most of these "protests" is that they don't realize that increased engagement on Reddit benefits... Reddit, I haven't seen a single major sub inviting its members to migrate to Lemmy or Kbin. The adrenaline shots that they get from posting on Reddit are just too good to even consider migrating, those spez slaves are addicted and a lost cause.
These protests continue because the people doing them want to stay on Reddit. They don't want to kill engagement. So, they're not actually going to do the things that have large scale impact on the business, like starting their own website and announcing tma move.
Mods from large subreddit could have spun up Lemmy instances, directed people to them, and had functioning and busy communities, possibly even pulling in enough community donations to pay themselves for moderating, at least a little bit. But they don't want that.
They want things to not change.
Moderators of large subs are some of the the most addicted people to Reddit.
But that said, I can understand it. We have to remember that where features are concerned, we're not even close to Reddit. The reason to migrate here is mostly an ideological one (from disagreement with the Reddit admins' actions) and perhaps some future potential.
Reddit still has far more functionality, including vastly better modding tools (which are extremely lacking here -- beehaw defederated from some of the biggest instances because they lacked any other tools for dealing with users), better uptime, vastly better UX (there's soooo many meta posts every day from people confused by the poor UX), support for videos, larger communities, more developed apps (we only have early stage alphas here), etc. All these things are barriers that will make some users write off Reddit alternatives as simply not good enough (yet).
Absolutely. The mod tools aren't ready for anything but friendly friend spaces for friends. I had someone join my small, single purpose Lemmy site that I didn't even think someone would find and join a bunch of subs I didn't want cluttering the feed, and I couldn't even remove them without going to the database they didn't post anything.
And this is fine if you're just making a wide open general purpose forum. If people aren't causing specific issues, you don't need to know they're there. But if you're doing something specific...
On the other hand, if 100 bots has signed up and just sat there quiet, I wouldn't have been able to do anything about them until they were flooding the forum, and that's really not great.
I've heard through the grapevine that references to Lemmy and KBin are being removed by Reddit like Twitter was doing to Mastodon.
I'd test it but that site has a special place in the Pi-Hole blacklist.