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Why do you have to "announce" your capabilities to beings you designed? Why do you have to onboard them to your "program" at all? If you truly are omnipotent, simply make beings that already know, and are already with the program. Assuming that is indeed what you want, why would you do anything else?
Are you throwing in extra steps for your own amusement? Just as a prank? Why? You're omniscient. You already know how it ends. What's amusing about it?
You are either toying with beings you created to be non-accepting and deliberately presenting conditions that won't convince them, or you're lacking one or both of omnipotence or omniscience.
An argument straight from the edgy teen atheist textbook, sure, but nonetheless one I have yet to see a compelling rebuttal for.
It's just basic logic, not even edgy teen athiest.
If your God is all good and all powerful, it can't be all knowing. If your God is all knowing and all good, it can't be all powerful. If your God is all knowing and all powerful then he can't be all good.
One of the three being absent is an appropriate excuse for the state of the world, but if it's all three? God had full control of the entirety of creation and he chose to invent the system that causes hell and punishment to be required. Why did he need to sacrifice himself? Does he not have the ability to just... Forgive people for the rules he invented?
God simultaneously has all the power in the universe or is totally helpless to change the system he created, it just depends on what specific point is being argued at the time.