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I'm late to this discussion, but I've been watching a few videos about this from content creators and I find this argument impossible to defend.

Taking ARR out (it's not really an expansion), you can't actually think EW is worse than HW. HW had much worse and less content and while the story, including the patches, was better, that era didn't have what people are complaining about now. Maybe less job homogenization, but also absolute dumpster tier jobs that people didn't play.

So yeah, things are a bit rough (specially now that a lot of new players are caught up), but the worst one? I can't agree with that.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I felt like the main villain came out of nowhere, and completely dumpstered everything I was looking forward to story-wise.

I was excited that we could finally take the fight to Garlemand, only to find out that it's been wiped out already.

I was excited to kick Zodiark's ass, only to find out that it's actually the last thing that was keeping the actual super secret bad guy in check this whole time.

I wanted to finally deal with the Ascians once and for all, not learn about a little bird girl in the penultimate chapter of the third act that flies off into space and throws a tantrum.

I was expecting Zodiark to be the final boss. It would have been AWESOME if Hydaelyn was. Instead we had to learn about some character that's never been referenced before, that we spend 1 zone learning about her entire back story before having to go fly off and slap her around. There wasn't enough time to even care about this character, let alone feel bad about putting it down like we were supposed to.

At that point, the main story was over, and the patches were starting a lead up into whatever new story arc is happening next, so I've been on a break ever since.

[–] Mathazzar 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have the same issues. But I also found that they had ascians bloviate more.

Just random sentences of philosophical nonsense. Mostly this was in Hermes.

For example, what he wants to say "I went against the conclave to figure out things"

What he says, " DOES THE BUTTERFLY YEARN TO FLY KNOWING ITS LIFE IS SHORT. WILL THERE BE A COMING DAY, WHERE THOUST DREAM WITH ME. WHO CAN WALK WHO HATH NOT CRAWLED THROUGH THE DARKEST NIGHTS. WHEN A CREATION DREAMS OF AETHYRIC SHEEP ARE THEY NOT REAL"

Not literally what he said but.. it felt like long sentences of hyperphilosophic filler. I could be wrong, but it's what I remember.

Ultimately, I wish they spent longer building up Meteion. Also, I really didn't care for or enjoy the old final fantasy story rehash. Though I do get its important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that Meteion being built up more would have helped. Maybe even just having had references in a previous expansion.

Hell, we could have found out stuff in the First during Shadowbringers, since Meteion's song is what lead to the split happening in the first place.

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