this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2023
95 points (96.1% liked)

Interesting Global News

2611 readers
318 users here now

What is global news?

Something that happened or was uncovered recently anywhere in the world. It doesn't have to have global implications. Just has to be informative in some way.


Post guidelines

Title formatPost title should mirror the news source title.
URL formatPost URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
[Opinion] prefixOpinion (op-ed) articles must use [Opinion] prefix before the title.


Rules

1. English onlyTitle and associated content has to be in English.
2. No social media postsAvoid all social media posts. Try searching for a source that has a written article or transcription on the subject.
3. Respectful communicationAll communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. InclusivityEveryone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacksAny kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangentsStay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may applyIf something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.


Companion communities

Icon attribution | Banner attribution

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because you're hung up on the name is no reason not to move forward with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. As I said, that's not what I'm arguing here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just call it something else. It’s not UBI.

That's what it seems that you're arguing. But as I said, "universal" can mean whatever we want. Let's just give poor people money so they can survive a little better and not worry about what the exact connotations the name might imply.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

UBI describes the policy I strongly support. The policy you support, I am on the fence about, and lean slightly against, for various reasons. It sounds like you, inversely, are pro means tested basic income, and anti universal basic income. Let's allow people to make up their minds about these policies based on the facts and not anything resembling a semantic bait and switch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

However 88 billion (the cost estimate in the OP article) divided by the population of canada is 2200

By your own admission, your version of UBI wouldn't be viable. You accuse me of a semantic bait and switch while misrepresenting the program the government is trying to implement.