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But F the poor I guess

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[–] Redex68 27 points 1 year ago (17 children)

That's not really comparable. When any citizen of a country gets lost either at sea or on land, large probably also multi million dollar searches are performed.

The difference is more to do with whether they're immigrants or natives.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But it is also absurd that we, on one hand, agree that all human lives have equal worth.. and on the other straight up consider a citicizen to be worth more than 1000 non-citizens.

I don't know how one can possibly argue that it is humane and in line with what we say our values are.

[–] Redex68 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it also has to do with the fact they're illegally crossing. If an American or a Filipino got lost in Europe they'd still search for them. Hell, every year here in Croatia we have to rescue Czechs who climb up mountains in flip flops.
I guess the reason is that what they're doing is illegal, and you don't have enough resources to track and save every single migrant ship.
I mean, I don't remember hearing Frontex or national coast guards completely ignoring sinking ships, they often try to save them from what I know, they just don't have as many resources.

But I do think rescue capabilities could be improved. I don't know how hard it is, but I feel like with modern technology, setting up radar combined with satellite imagery shouldn't be that hard. Ships stick out of the water a lot, so tracking the ships that are out of place shouldn't be too hard.

Regarding immigration, once I believed we should take in all refugees, but now I've come to realise that it's more complicated. Untill we figure out how to properly assimilate them into society, it will only lead to problems and disappointment on both sides. If immigrants huddle up into segregated communities they won't assimilate, they'll be poor, and that's the source of all conflict. I don't believe they're any different from us, nor that their cultures are completely incompatible, but if they become segregated they will be ostracized from society, they'll be poor and resent society for shunning them. They came to this land from so far away, hearing promises of how great it is, and then they live worse than they did back home. That leads to crime, more resentment and racism, leading to them having an even harder time. It's a brutal cycle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't remember hearing Frontex or national coast guards completely ignoring sinking ships

Are you serious? Or do you mean to say you did not hear about them ignoring ships since they are usually watching them drowning or even actively trying to sink them?

They came to this land from so far away, hearing promises of how great it is, and then they live worse than they did back home.

Ahh, so you are just helping them by denying basic human rights of seeking for asylum and a better life. That's too kind of you.

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