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[–] coygsu 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Havertz signing might cause issues between Arteta and Hale End products. Emile Smith Rowe, Reiss Nelson, Florian Balogun, and Eddie Nketiah's positions in the team are now in question. Haverts, in my opinion, is a jack of all trades but a master of none. Depending on how Havertz is played, at least half of these players will fall a place in the pecking order and might not even be on the bench for CL or PL ties. This could alienate the locker-room if Hale End products lose trust in Arteta, because the signing of Havertz on paper seems to signal that Arteta and the club might have lost trust in them. I don't know how the club and Arteta can say they have faith in the likes of Nelson, Nketiah, and Simth Rowe, but then make such a move. Strengthening the midfield, especially defensively was the key goal in the summer transfer window but what we've gone and got is a versatile striker, winger, and attacking midfielder. Get Rice, Timber, and Lavia done or else the Arsenal are in for a tough 2023/2024.

[–] Astrealix 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Havertz is our Xhaka replacement I think. Without him we'd be down to 3 10s which isn't what Arteta wants

I doubt we ever see Havertz at pure 9 ngl, I'd almost rather see Martinelli there

[–] coygsu 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Havertz played the 8 a few times with Chelsea and he didn't have the defensive discipline to prosper in that position. I'd rather have someone like Lavia, Nelson or ESR (if he improves his defense) in that role. My point is Havertz's variability is not a positive attribute. Arsenal need an outright number 9 and an out right number 8, but this is secondary to reinforcing the midfield with the likes of Rice and Lavia.

[–] Gingerrific 1 points 1 year ago

Pep and Arteta are moving away from players who specialize in one thing, and are looking for players who are more versatile.

Havertz has a lot of qualities that will suit our style of play and while he isn't defensively suited for the 8 role I can see Arteta slowly integrating him into the role, especially against teams who will park the bus.

Stylistically I think Havertz is a great option and will do well here and will add yet another dimension to our attacking options.

[–] Astrealix 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nelson isn't a midfielder lol. I think given the profile of left 8 options between Fabby V, ESR, and Havertz, we're making it into 2 10s on the pitch and giving the lone 6 even more defensive responsibility. Havertz would fit very well in a second striker kinda role.

[–] coygsu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nelson is a winger but I rate his awareness and ability to track back higher than Havertz. He might not be as physically imposing, but he has the tenacity needed for the role. We'll see how this works out. Does lemmy have a reminder bot and tags? I'd love to set a wager. Havertz is gonna be a stinker for Arsenal. He'll have the worst xG and big chances missed. If he has a positive xG to goals ratio, you can give me a tag of your choice, if not I'll choose a tag for you for next year's transfer window.

[–] Astrealix 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not making bets lol especially given he hasn't even been announced; also idek if you can do flairs on this. Besides, xG doesn't define players; otherwise Jesus would be the worst striker we've had in some time.