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Been thinking about it, but I think we're a bit past the point where it's even possible especially around banking. Maybe it would be important to have as many as possible go back to dumb phones before they start to introduce obligations to own a smartphone.
I'm a software developer. I have a modern phone. However, I just log into banking via the Web. I don't use any apps. So, I do so on my computer, but maybe my lifestyle doesn't require a phone to do this, and other people's do? I'm not sure. I just don't need to online bank when out and about. Is that a normal thing?
Some banks in Europe are slowly removing features from their websites in attempt to push people onto their app which can execute whatever spyware they want without the constraints of javascript. Some banks have ditched their website and force their customers to use the closed-source app.. while also forcing them to buy new hardware periodically. Yes it’s a terrible direction things are going.
I think there are more advanced dumb phones that allow you to run android apps, so you could still have banking and whatnot, but then you'd risk of it becoming just another smartphone.
A bank has already done that. If you don’t install their app, you simply lose access to your account. In Europe the post office banks will likely not pull that shit and will remain useful for analog/offline folks.
I have been considering changing to my local farmer's credit bank. They still have actual places you can go in every small town. I drive 20km every time I want something from my actual bank, it's ridiculous. I imagine the farmers bank also might be analog-friendly in other ways.