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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unions are not an inherent part of capitalism. Capitalism is anti-unions by default, the acceptance of unions is called the 'social peace': the one and only reason unions are accepted by the capitalists is the unions threat of mass strike and violence. All the social policy good sides to capitalism were forced upon the system by organised workers. If a capitalist can employ a 12 year old for less than the price of a decent meal a day, they will. And they do. It's only because of pressure from unions and their threat of mass strike and violence that this is no longer allowed in somewhat developed countries.

[โ€“] bobble 1 points 11 months ago

Unions arent an inherent part of capitalism, but they are present in our system and I want that presence to expand. I consider strikes and protests as part of the system. Protesting is a protected right in the US. Yeah I don't know what to tell you, but we do have political power. The votes that are cast are generally reflected in the policy. Why do you think corporations bother making propaganda? They need to make sure people vote the way they want because even corporations understand the influence individuals can have on their business. Change has been and will continue to be made within the system. Does that mean violence will never occur? No. It will, but that violences effect is mostly reflected in the awareness/stance on a issue. Violence is very polarizing. Who was more effective; Martin Luther King or Malcolm X?