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Chief rabbi of Ukraine @RabbiUkraine writes on his Facebook page:

"The first photo shows my grandchildren hiding from Russian terrorists' missiles in Kyiv region in the first days of the terrible invasion of Ukraine.

Later, together with thousands of people, we evacuated them to Israel and Europe.

In the second photo, the same people are hiding from Hamas terrorists' missiles.

Two different parts of the world, but such a common pain and struggle... My heart breaks to see these faces, but I believe that the light of truth and faith will help us to go through these challenges

I pray to the Almighty to bring down his anger and fury on all those involved in the terror of civilians!"

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s my understanding the British put these two peoples in

It was more the Americans - factions within Britain warned that this would be an untenable situation.

an impossible situation

And there's the rub. There are no considerations where land appropriated by the west from a (non-Russian, non-German) current population for a long-since displaced population as some sort of reparation for Russian and German aggression will somehow come to a stable peace.

All that said, the actions of Israel in isolating Palestinians into a ghetto where control is by fiat and without any consideration for self-determination and independence is not just ironic but also a source of constant and mounting friction and discontent within the repressed population. There may not be a way to resolve the condition, but the current attitude by Israel is actively aggravating it.

Note: I'm a second generation descendent of Russian Jews. I still see the entire Israeli/Palestinian condition as untenable.

[–] davepleasebehave -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

one side has power and the other side does not. it's a bit disingenuous to blame both sides. Israel could have just divested all interest in the Palestinian lands. left them to it. It would have not been any different except the people of Gaza would be able to blame Hamas for their issues rather than Israel.

One suspects that Israel benefits from keeping the wounds open. unfortunately it is a reason to continue to take land.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Power but not choice. Where would they go?

[–] davepleasebehave 1 points 1 year ago

Israel does.not necessarily need to go anywhere.

they do need to stop messing in Gaza.

remove their illegal settlements.

would be nice if they could stop committing ethnic cleansing