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Live your best life Germany, don't let the haters tell you otherwise

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[–] shalafi 3 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Due to Russia's war, Germany's oil and gas supply is compromised. They're spinning these coal plants up so people don't freeze to death this winter.

OTOH, shutting down their nuclear plants is pants-on-head retarded. Nuclear energy is green energy. The best in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

I’m familiar with the issue but OP seemed to be saying that it was a lie that the nuclear plants had been shut down. Since they haven’t replied I’m assuming they’re full of shit but I wanted to give them the chance to explain just in case I’m missing something.

I think Germany deserves harsh criticism for their consistent failure to develop fossil fuel alternatives. This has been brought up as an issue for many years prior to the conflict yet those warnings were all ignored. I don’t have much sympathy at this point but I do have anger for any country that is increasing its coal use at this point. Burning coal should be seen as a crime against humanity. Many people will suffer and die as a result of this decision. Far more in my opinion than the fuel shortage would. Germany would rather the world burn than their citizens be a little chilly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Because it is. You are brainwashed by the nuclear lobby trying to tell the fairy tale of how every plan without nuclear will fail and the fossil fuel lobby telling the tale of how it's hopeless and reducing coal isn't working. And both just tell you the same lie about some magical increase in coal use in Germany that doesn't exist.

The idea above is basically the epitome of cluelessness and just parroting narratives. Nobody is freezing in winter because there isn't enough electricity. Because the amount of heating via electricty is low and nobody is heating with coal either. That what gas is mainly used for and why people are talking about gas storage... and no, that doesn't have much to do with electricity either as gas use in electricity production is also low and only used as a peak burner to adapt to quick changes in demand.

It's one big ball of lies while conflating primary energy, heating and electricity to disguise that the underlying facts are already false.

See the linked actual stats above.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] bouh 1 points 11 months ago

What I see here is that Germany is still burning fossile fuels to produce more than half its energy. And even more so during winter. Good job Germany. Do you want a medal?

How long has Germany been building renewables? For what result? It is pitiful a'd German ecologist should be ashamed of themselves.

Germany too the wrong fight. Nuclear is not the threat, fossile fuels are. But keep convincing yourself you did nothing wrong while the world is burning. Hopefully in 50 years you'll stop burning fossile fuels.

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