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Hamas’s Qassam Brigades has threatened to execute Israeli captives if Israel continues to bombard and kill civilians in Gaza.

“Any targeting of innocent civilians without warning will be met regretfully by executing one of the captives in our custody, and we will be forced to broadcast this execution,” said Abu Obeida, a spokesman for Hamas’ Qassam Brigades.

“We regret this decision but we hold the Zionist enemy and their leadership the responsibility for this,” he said.

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[–] jadalovelace 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

didn't see it was already 75 years ago. i think you're right.

i went looking online to see if i could find any reports on rape allegations. most sources are news websites that i'm not familiar with so i don't want to use them as source.

most reputable news sources have articles about rape allegations among soldiers, not from palestinians. Which i think is a problem in every army, regardless of the nation.

so i think i'm in agreement with you here that there's not much evidence that the IDF is raping palestinians.

having said that, it feels like a technicality in the face of all the palestinians the IDF has murdered and evicted. Where i'm talking exclusively about civilians, not hamas terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it is just a technicality really. Accusations of systemic rape as a weapon of war are very serious. If they are used as a counter argument to say "it's not important that Palestinians immediately go on a raping spree the very moment they step foot out of Gaza, because the Israelis have been doing it for years" that is a clear lie. Such lies need to be called out, not excused as unimportant technicalities. How are you deciding that those Israeli kids deserved it if you don't really care about facts

[–] jadalovelace 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

oh i never meant to say that any of the israeli victims deserved it.

neither the israeli nor the palestinian people deserve what has been happening.

i do think its unfair to be shocked at palestinian aggression while ignoring israeli war crimes.

none of it is ever deserved or justified. the hamas attack from last week should be fought back with tooth and nail. hamas needs to be brought down.

and netanyahu and any israeli politicians involved in the colonization for the past two decades should be tried for war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok then we are on the same page I guess

But I feel kind of dirty having to defend the Israelis against a lot of propaganda. Letting this kind of casual lies to excuse horrid violence pass will not serve anything but normalize more violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ok then we are on the same page I guess

But I feel kind of dirty having to defend the Israelis against a lot of propaganda. Letting this kind of casual lies to excuse horrid violence pass will not serve anything but normalize more violence.

Also, where we might disagree: you say Hamas should be brought down. But they are deeply entrenched between the civilians in Gaza. So how do you suggest it's done?