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The one on the bottom is one of the Eratigena, Giant House Spiders. Top one is harder to see, but I'd say it's the same.
e.g. https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/750907-Eratigena-duellica
E. duellica, E. saeva and e. atrica are impossible to distinguish without examination of the genitalia under a microscope, and all 3 are apparently introduced to North America, so potentially any of those.
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