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Mammalian tits do this thing where they stop making milk when it stops being extracted from them. You're complaining that capitalism was working so well that a logistical interruption happened on a global scale the worst of it is a lot of milk may have been wasted. Instead of the entire dariy industry collapsing.
Why would the system collapse?
Perhaps because they need to pay off debts to other capitalists?
Funny how circle this all is, isn't it?
Show me a society in history that purposefully destroyed food for economic gain.
Didn't China have a famine because they were too stupid to agriculture?
What the fuck does that have to do with this? Are you an idiot?
So how would a different system solve the problem of a single link in a supply chain disrupting the rest?
First step is getting a majority to recognize capitalism isn't the best solution. That it is just another -ism in a long line of -isms.
AKA: no solution exists under socialism or communism and the OP is talking shit
You sound like a religious nut claiming atheism is a religion.
You sound like you're flailing because you don't know what you're talking about
Or maybe I've sick of stupid people who can't think for themselves.
If I say capitalism isn't good you assume socialism.
That's like me saying Christianity is bad so you assume I'm a Muslim.
You have a weak mind and I'm not interested in being nice to morons. I've found it only emboldens their stupidity.
First of all, you have no idea whether or not I think for myself.
Second of all, if you do criticize capitalism, of course you're advocating for another alternative system. That's what everybody's talking about, communism or socialism. You can't just criticize a system without having an alternative.
But go ahead, cope and say that I have a weak mind. Maybe this makes you feel better about not knowing wtf you're talking about.
I can certainly tell you have a weak mind since you cannot grasp what I am discussing. You need to pigeonhole my ideas because you cannot form original thoughts.
America was founded without a centralized religion belief system, a crazy idea at the time but an obvious choice today.
I posit that societies can exist without centralized monetary policies.
But please continue being a capitalist cuck. I see no reason to expect more from you. Clearly you think yourself smarter than you are.
I'm not trying to pigeonhole, I'm just trying to find out why you're saying what you're saying. Thing is that you're not discussing anything. When America was founded, the founding fathers created a system that would make the centralized religious belief obsolete and would replace the job of the central church. You're here saying "no centralized monetary policy" which you still didn't me why this solves the supply chain disruption problem.
Thank you for clearing this up.