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A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.

Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.

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If at the very least we(sterners) offered an alternative territory for palestinians(, with a lot of money, promises to lift sanctions, stop interfering in the Middle-East, etc.), then we could start negotiations, but we're not offering them anything, they simply have to accept their unilateral loss, that's not just.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have to say I'm quite surprised that there are 5.1m Palestinians in Palestine considering how many had to leave. The popular narrative (even the pro-Palestinian one) gives the impression of a much smaller population.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They certainly have a small territory though, but the Gaza strip is (one of )the most densely populated region in the world(, 6.500 inhabitants per km2, compared with Hong-Kong's 6750).
According to wikipedia, there's a sharp decrease in fertility(, from 7.8 in 1950 to 7 in 1984, then 6 in 1996, 5 in 2003, 4 in 2015, and currently below 3.5), so i don't want to sound pessimistic but it won't last, since Israel's fertility rate apparently stayed around 5-6 since 1950. Everyone's encouraged to leave but nobody's allowed to enter, the only migrants come stealthily(, Eva Bartlett comes to mind).
This interesting article says, among other things worth reading, that the number of palestinian refugees is 6.4M.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

6.4m refugees! I knew that number was large.

Thanks for the details.