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Such phrasing is light-hearted, but that doesn't mean the broader point isn't meant sincerely. If someone says, "That's why Jesus invented alcohol" after someone complains about having a hard day, that doesn't mean that they literally believe Jesus invented alcohol, but it does mean that they regard alcohol as an appropriate response to the situation.
The core of tankieism, as detailed elsewhere on this sub, is a simple tribalism. Thinking of it in terms of ideological consistency is a mistake.
Not even sure that sympathetic is really the right word. "Critical support", when it's not just used to mean "I love bootlicking but I realize it looks bad", means something closer to "I understand these people are bad, but I think the opposition is worse" - ie that they regard weakening America as more important than opposing the Taliban.
As such, personally, I'm not saying that this guy loves the Taliban - but that he probably means 'critical support' more seriously than joking.
Tankies are atheists and the Taliban are religious fundamentalists who oppose everything that modern tankies stand for. If anything they're closer to the original tankies who had similar social values and who happened to be supported by Russian communist Islamists in the beginning. Islamists and the original Bolsheviks generally uphold the values of the Torah but the Marxists just put an atheist spin on it and called it secular morality.
This is the problem with ironically glorifying extremist groups is that many other people aren't going to know that you're joking. At least in places like Jreg's community you generally have a sense of post irony.
A lot of the context for comments by hexbear users are often references to the latest episode of Chapo Trap House.