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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763330

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763328

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6137607

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.

[–] 1bluepixel 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is exactly it.

I'm moving to China for work, so I'm interested in alternative points of view on Chinese society from the usual U.S. mainstream media CCP hate boner. I checked out hexbear, and... my goodness.

They cheer for a version of China that the Chinese themselves would be embarrassed by. It's clearly driven by 14-year-old white boy edgelords who are enamored with a hardcore Marxist-Leninist vision of China that never existed, most likely in reaction to a dislike of modern Western capitalism. I mean, they referenced "struggle sessions" with nostalgia and cheer for Bashar al-Assad because China is being friendly to him.

Real-life China is quite different from the depictions you see on main Lemmy instances, but it sure as hell isn't anything like what the tankies are jerking off to, either.

[–] vidarh 16 points 1 year ago

It feels like most Western CCP cheerleaders are basically cheering on a pre-Deng version of the CCP and haven't quite noticed that the CCP of today would totally purge anyone pushing the pre-Deng/pre-1978 views of the CCP.

[–] ttmrichter 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"China" isn't "embarrassed" by lemmy.ml or hexbear.net. "China" just shuts down access to non-Chinese social media sites as they are discovered. Any social media site that isn't currently blocked in China is on numbered days until they are blocked, whether "pro-China" or "anti-China".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is true. I was kidding. That said, the Chinese government does engage in social media. And they probably would see lemmy users as a poor messenger, if they cared about lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They might spread western ideas of communism in China. That’s not something China can allow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism with western characteristics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Communism as understood by one who has read Marx and isn’t interested in the details of creating it.