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It's clear you don't know how things work at all. You can't expect to tax someone billions every year and not have to sell the thing causing such a huge tax burden. This isn't an infinite money glitch, the loan thing can only go so far.
Also, unrealized gains are a real thing, stocks go up and down, and the change in value is unrealized until it's sold. If a stock goes up $100 that isn't $100 in my pocket, because tomorrow it could go down $200. If you want to tax these unrealized gains, then you should be paying out the unrealized losses as well. You would also be screwing up the middle class retirement funds, so thanks for that.
You have a big mouth for someone who has zero clue.
Obviously, taxes are levied on a yearly basis and not every day, so daily fluctuations in value are irrelevant.
And retirement funds are tax exempt, so they will not be screwed.
And yes, people who can't afford to pay property taxes have to sell property. That is a reality we all have to deal with, so why not let the super rich also deal with it.
Dude, get some education.
Are you not proposing taxing billionaires billions in taxes until they are no longer billionaires? That's what everyone else seems to be suggesting. If they took out billion dollar loans to pay this tax, their wealth would be the same or more every year and they would pay billions more next year. It doesn't take long for there to be no more loans available because all the owned stock is held as collateral for these billions in tax loans they took out.
Oh, thanks for singling out one form of stock ownership while harshly taxing another. Not all middle class "retirement" accounts are under that retirement umbrella though. Since there are a lot of restrictions in those many will have regular stock holdings that would be taxed under your plans.
Financial and real assets are different. We don't tax financial assets as property, and only some real property gets a property tax.
You really don't see how your ideas won't work, do you?
I'm gonna stop arguing with idiots today, thanks for playing.
If you can't answer valid criticism of your ideas that's your problem, have a good one