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The removal of borders on buttons. I don't know how many times I've been using a piece of software and haven't realized for a long while that some icon is actually a clickable thing and not just some UI decoration or something.
The removal of text in favor of icons. I hate having to memorize what all your icons mean in your app. Please just make text unless it's something insanely obvious. It's even worse when they neglect to put tool tips to tell you what the icon is supposed to mean
I teach IT for seniors (basically a class room full of your Nan asking how her phone works) and I 100% agree with both of your points.
For experienced users, a lack of distinct buttons, and the use of icons only has the potential to slow you down.
For new users, learners, and people with cognitive or visual impairment these features make websites and apps boarderline In-usable.
It's very hard to teach people how to use a computer when I must first teach them an endless codex of icons and symbols, and train them to mouse over anything and everything in case it's a button.
Like wise, companies like Google need to stop being cute with confirmation buttons that say "got it" or "I'm in". Stick to basics like "okay" and "agree", because a lot of IT students in community education are non-English speaking, so indirect buttons like this are even more confusing. And for those of us who are fluent in English, we're often scanning a page for specific text, and we're even less likely to recognise a button is a button if the text on it is something that has never traditionally been put on a button.
I agree with you. I think the problem is localization. If all buttons are text they're going to need translation and word length will vary. It's doable, yes. But a series of icons takes up less space and should ideally communicate universally...it's a little better if done right. If Photoshop was a bunch of words I'd be pissed off.
This exactly is what I hate most about eclipse. I do something and suddenly there's an icon on every single file of my project, and everything stops working. Now instead of googling an error I have to search "eclipse orange star icon". Worst of all is that they reuse icons for different errors. I absolutely hate it.