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[–] Dead_or_Alive 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”. - Benjamin Franklin.

[–] SuckMyWang 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does he mean by liberty exactly? I feel like we’re well past that

[–] Dead_or_Alive 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

:Looks at Trump MAGA slow motion facist take over of the government:

Are we really over that liberty thing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Magas don't want liberty

Magas quite literally want a theocratic dictatorship that pushes their sick beliefs on the entire country. As they'll then control nuclear weapons, they'll likely want to push said sick beliefs upon the entire world.

Fuck magas

[–] Dead_or_Alive 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes fuck MAGAs, but if the times call for it, I want the tools to do more than just fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That honestly sounds very like armchair hero rhetoric, what do hou expect to happen?

[–] Dead_or_Alive 2 points 1 year ago

I would expect something like the “troubles” in Ireland or nation wide rioting like we saw in the summer of 2020. We really don’t know what the future holds. But I’d rather have something and not need it than to need it and not have it.

[–] SuckMyWang 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is liberty referring to freedom? Liberation from what? What is freedom? The jan 6 people were mostly getting social media washed into their behaviour. Admittedly someone has to be open to it before they can be primed but each step is necessary to achieve this kind of mania. My point is how much are we truely freely thinking when we’re constantly having our attention pulled to events that have carefully curated narratives already prepared for our consumption.

[–] Dead_or_Alive 2 points 1 year ago

Well you have the freedom to buy into whichever flavor of propaganda you prefer. I don’t think there are too many alternatives flavors of propaganda offered to Chinese or Russian citizens…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Join your local radical (in a cool way 😎) militia if you're actually worried.