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Microsoft CEO says unfair practices by Google led to its dominance as a search engine (finance.yahoo.com)
submitted 1 year ago by L4s to c/technology
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Microsoft CEO says unfair practices by Google led to its dominance as a search engine::Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said Monday that unfair tactics used by Google led to its dominance as a search engine, tactics that in turn have thwarted his company's rival program, Bing. Nadella testified in a packed Washington, D.C., courtroom as part of the government's landmark antitrust trial against Google's parent company, Alphabet. The Justice Department alleges Google has abused the dominance of its ubiquitous search engine to throttle competition and innovation at the expense of consumers, allegations that echo a similar case brought against Microsoft in the late 1990s.

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[–] hperrin 215 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I mean he’s not wrong, but you know, pot, kettle, etc.

[–] MimicJar 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I mean, he is wrong. Google isn't the default on Windows, but Chrome and Google search dominate Windows.

Google is the default for Android, so we can discuss that (but that isn't what Microsoft is complaining about.)

That just leaves macOS and more importantly iPhone. Google pays to be the default there. Is that unfair? Should Apple be able to bid for/charge a company to be the default?

Additionally in all these cases switching is easy.

I won't deny that being the default is an advantage but it isn't like users can't switch. You can remove Google search from your phone and it will work just fine. You can change the defaults on your Safari browser in a few clicks.

To be clear if this case uncovers shady/illegal behavior from Google, fuck 'em, but I'm not seeing it.

[–] obelisk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I mostly agree with what you're saying here, I would like to point out that removing Google Search from an Android device can prevent a user from accessing other applications or specific features within (obviously Google developed apps). I guess that one really comes down to what we think working "just fine" is.

[–] MimicJar 3 points 1 year ago

I think you're right for the Play Store or Google Play Services but I can disable the "Google" app and things run just fine, and I can install more apps.

You're not wrong that ROMs that don't include the core services have issues, but Google Search is definitely not required.

(As an exception some phones won't allow you to disable certain Google services, but as a general rule you can.)

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