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no decent person steals from small business... its common sense to avoid that and most people who do steal do it from walmart and megacorps. idrk where u got worrying ab small business from, its just considered shitty to steal from them. but big corps who lay around in their yacht profiting off of others being too broke to eat and feed their kids? fuck them. steal all you can from them because they will from you.
But end of the day its all the same in society. Corporations suck but so does turning a blind eye to thiefs. It's never cut and dry as 'only steal from corporations' because a decent person doesn't steal and we should all be more concerned with being decent people instead of ignoring behavior like stealing. Its a good feeling to be at arms length and condone these heroic actions like stealing diapers from Walmart and thinking its some poor mother trying to survive in a harsh world. But everyone I ever met like that in life were people who just assholes in everything else. They lie to your face, they cheat on their loved ones, they're drama goblins because they're a mess and they don't care about others, only themselves.
People commit theft because the barriers / consequences of theft to obtain an item or less than the barriers/consequences of legitimate purchase. It's always a supply and availability issue. Humans aren't intrinsically evil. Also there aren't a bunch of programs to provide free baby supplies. Even WIC requires application but some people might not have the time or ability to go to. And it's not free with WIC, you still have to pay.
Also if you want to talk philosophy, children are too young to consent and be beholden to the social contract. They're participation is mandatory because they are innocent and dependent. It's our obligation to provide for them collectively.
WIC is free if you get it.
If you're a single man with infants (under age 1) and/or children (under age 5) then, THEY are eligible for the benefits of the program. Women are specifically added in because the program is designed to also help pregnant, breastfeeding and/or postpartum women who have their own nutritional needs. Women who don't meet those requirements are also not eligible.
So, you don't get help with food for yourself, but you can get assistance for infants/children ... there are other programs to help you.
Search terms used on Google in Incognito mode: single man with children WIC eligibility
Brings you to this page: https://www.joinproviders.com/state/illinois/wic/
Which has the below information:
There are four kinds of eligibility for WIC:
Moms have to be pregnant, up to six months past pregnancy, or up to your baby’s first birthday if you’re breastfeeding.
Children are eligible up to their fifth birthday.
Foster parents, guardians and single fathers who have custody of their children are also eligible.
Residential: You need to live in the state where you’re applying.
Nutritional: A health professional needs to determine if you are at “nutrition risk.” This might mean you have a medical condition like anemia, or a diet that could be healthier. You can see a health professional for free at a local WIC clinic.
Financial: Your household needs to make less than the amounts listed in the income limit table below to qualify for WIC. A pregnant woman counts as two (or more) household members. If you know you’re having more than one baby, count each one as a household member.
The top link for that search is for a page in IL, but I saw similar for other states.
If you have an infant or child I believe you can.
But that is objective which is my point. I feel guilt that my actions can impact other people negatively. Thief's though grow up never giving a shit. If you're around these people long enough you'll see patterns of behavior that clearly show that consequence part of their brain is different. Its like their pleasure center overrides anything of consequence and their whole life is seeking out personal advantageous at the cost of other people.
Like I said, I've known people to have enough money to afford groceries and everything else. But they will steal something like formula. They don't care. Even at a Walmart there's managers and employees that need to answer for why there's such a high theft rate at stores. Its never victimless.
I'm all for providing care. And people aren't born evil but they do become it in very insidious ways. And one way is being someone who never stopped to care that their actions and behaviors would put a burden on others. They live for themselves only. Like the formula. Think about it in the mind of a person whose brain only looks at how they can benefit. Why spend money on your kid when you can use it to get yourself a treat. Just steal the formula and buy yourself that thing you wanted. Thief's are like that. Many are not stealing because they need to. Many are stealing because their barrier/consequence calculation removes the part where you have to think of others.
You literally just said: “People aren’t born evil but they do become it by being someone who was born evil.” If they never stopped to care their whole lives, they started that way.
Who are 'they'?
The most important of questions.
Hold up. Who do you think "they" are
That only works in Uno, babe.
No seriously because I would have though it's inherent in the comment but also stated. I just surprised it isn't and would like to know who you think it is before I say since it sounds like you have another idea
The commenter is asking you to define “they” because they don’t want you to try to squirm out from under the statistical landslide of facts about just how bad the poor in America have it. About how they don’t have the money and they don’t have the means to get more money when even a college-educated person can’t land a proper full-time paying position to cover the expenses of a family anymore.
But you knew that, which is why you started squirming early.
What squirming? What fuck are you trying to say
But you can fuck off with this nonsense. They are people who steal. Don't give two shits who or what they are.
Never seen anyone steal baby formula outside a riot, because it's always locked up.
But yeah, I'm sure some people steal because they're hungry, but the people I saw steal when working grocery stole steaks, lobster, shrimp, eye drops, high-end hair products, and workers' hours. If someone was ever stealing out of need (fuck, even a single carbohydrate) they were slick enough about it not to get caught. But we tracked shrink, and could tell when something disappeared without account.