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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I may be lost but preety much everyone wants peace talks, no?

[–] Sheeple 3 points 1 year ago

We tried peace talks.

Russia doesn't want peace. It wants Ukraine to surrender.

The problem never was that we didn't try peace talks. We did try a lot of negotiations. Russia refused all of them

[–] alokir 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, I should have been more specific.

It's a common talking point in my home country that Ukraine and Russia should stop fighting immediately and have peace talks.

But when Russia occupies parts of Ukraine they won't say "yeah, sorry, my bad, we'll leave", they'll want to enforce their demands, which will most likely be territories and/or installing a Russian puppet government.

The problem is not peace talks but doing it right now. Ukraine will have to at least push them back and weaken them first.

It's not a good precedent to let major powers invade their neighbors and be able to immediately get what they want.