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Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College (www.pewresearch.org)

submitted 1 year ago by PizzaMan to c/conservative

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65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

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[–] jimbolauski 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Swing states are not the only votes that make a difference. If enough people believed that in a solid state and didn't vote the outcome would change ie their vote counts.

Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.

Your vote doesn't get changed based on the outcome it stays the same. It is still counted.

Issue voting is winner take all and unless I missed it you don't have a problem with that.

What you are asking for is a more granular representation for votes, not to "make everyone's vote count".

[–] PizzaMan 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've already addressed basically everything you've said here, so I'm going to leave it at that.

[–] jimbolauski -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've yet to address how votes in states that lose are not counted. I can see 6,006,429 people in California voted for Trump in 2020 so their votes were counted.

[–] PizzaMan 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Votes are ignored when your state votes against you (Ex: California votes 51% blue 49% red, but 100% of the electoral votes go to blue, effectively ignoring half the voters). Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.

[–] jimbolauski -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did the 6006429 people that voted for Trump in California didn't have their votes counted?

[–] PizzaMan 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is some real woosh material right here. The point I'm trying to make seems to be sailing right over your head while you gripe about technicalities.

Those people effectively did not have their votes counted. They effectively voted for Biden in the end because their electoral votes that represent them voted against them.

[–] jimbolauski -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not arguing about technicalities, everyone's vote counts, except in the minds of election conspiracy theorists.

Your points are not about making everyone's vote equal they are about making the outcomes more granular.