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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I do NOT understand how zip is still the default. I use .tgz wherever I can.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because of your comment, I did a quick google search and pretty much every source says that .tar.gz is also pretty ancient and not that good (from a compression point of view). For better compression, you can use the xz or 7zip formats. The former is more used on Linux, if that's what you're using.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lzo or lzma is best for compression. Also depends on the compression rate. KDE Ark is awesome

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Nono, z-standard is where it's at

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compatibility with literally anything under the sun that can decompress a compressed file.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But isn't that's given with tgz too?
Except of course Windows iirc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, but Windows is still the majority right now... And i'm sure there are a lot of people out there that don't have 7zip installed (why doesn't MS include their own implementation already ?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is the problem imo. If you NEVER change a thing you will never improve

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck teaching that to people who only use a computer to browse Facebook.

Not saying it's impossible, but it takes time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do these even need zips?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They do but its useless. Winrar can handle .tar.* too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows, Android, iOS do not open them by default.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can do it on iOS using Siri Shortcuts.
I don't get how they add all these formats to Shortcuts but only Zip into the file app...

[–] qaz 5 points 1 year ago

People barely understand how to open a .zip file, explaining what .tar.gz is and why you need an additional program (on Windows) is going to be impossible.

[–] Dandroid 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What exactly is better about tar.gz over zip?

I tend to prefer zip because of cross compatibility with Windows with no extra software needed, and because the Windows software to unpackage a tar.gz that I have used required unpacking it twice (once for the gz, then again for the tar). It seemed like a hassle.

On Linux I command line everything, so they are the same to me, so I have no preference there. But is there something actually better about it?

[–] sznio 1 points 1 year ago

With .zip you can extract just one file from it, while with .tar.gz you have to uncompress the whole .tar before you can get the files - so that's worse.

But, since you're compressing all files at once you could get better compression since information can be shared between files.