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I've been talking with @[email protected], and we agreed it would be best to discuss this as a community. What are all of your thoughts on defederating instances with loli and shota? My thoughts will be posted in the comments.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there any major instances that allow that, specifically ones that are on the join-lemmy ? It's a good idea to block that content but I am wondering if we'll also lose so many great communities by trying to get rid of one community. If the content there is flagged and blurred then users can block it without having to deal with it. Lemmy is still growing, so premature defederation might hurt its growth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The largest instances (lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, and beehaw.org) don't allow it. The instances that do tend to be medium sized or smaller.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From this list the lemmy.world is the only one that doesn't allow it explicitly. All others just doesn't allow any pornograpic content in general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed. However, a general ban on pornography is still enough to prevent this type of content from filtering in from them. However, pornography isn't inherently immoral and many people who watch pornography still form perfectly pleasant communities, so I don't think we should just defederate with NSFW communities in general.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed. But I also think that immoral is not a good enough reason to defederate. Allowing individual users to block communities they don't want to see is a better option in my eyes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Immorality is the only reason I'd advocate for defederating. There are plenty of things I find distasteful that aren't inherently immoral, and in those cases I think it's up to the individual to curate their own content. However, with this content I think its production and distribution is morally wrong, close to if not inherently, and thus I think taking steps to staunch its redistribution is good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Even looking from immoral perspective it's a slippery slope. Something one person might find immoral is just distasteful for another. Immorality is just a norm that different people will interpret differently. If we defederate from this, should we then also defederate from every other instance that someone else finds immoral?