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Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly (twitter.com)
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[–] McArthur 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (35 children)

Competition sounds great, so long as it has all of the following:

  • Something better than steam input and the steam controller.
  • Something better than steam vr.
  • Something better than steam workshop.
  • something better than proton
  • Something better than steams friends/chat/activity interface.
  • Something better than the steam overlay.
  • Something better than big picture.
  • Absolutely no exclusives, and no deals forcing developers to use it.
  • A nicer store interface than valve, with better community pages, curator pages, discussion pages, etc.
  • An equivalent to steam fest with a strong demo scene.
  • Something better than remote play together

This is of course also ignoring just how efficient, clean, customisable and ergonomic the steam interface is compared to all competition

Oh wait! That doesn't exist. All we need is some way to guarantee valve doesn't become public.

[–] herrvogel 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can't exist. You can't launch a new competitor to a mature and well-developed platform and hope to come anywhere near its feature set right off the bat. That's never gonna happen, especially when a lot of the "requirements" you presented there are expensive shit that takes years of hard work to develop. You're gonna have to give them time. And money, as it happens. They're not gonna be able to develop that VR you present as a requirement if everybody refuses to use their platform because there is no VR. It's a catch 22.

[–] McArthur 2 points 1 year ago

I'd be happy to support any kind of platform aiming to do these things even if it doesn't have them yet, so long as it was open source or had some kind of structure that prevented enshitification. I'd contribute, probably force myself to use it where possible much like I do with other things. The issue is that the current competition trying to do what steam does (epic) is just trying to do it but worse.

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