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https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59369/I-ve-seen-a-few-discussions-about-the-failed-protests-and
If the protests are really such a failure as some people say, we wouldn't see actions such as:
I think that the resulting media coverage alone, forcing Reddit to go on a PR tour all over mainstream media, is success enough. It has also led some advertisers to pause their campaigns on Reddit.
Sentiment on Reddit is not reliable as well. Ignoring (chat) bots and plants, those who have remained are more skewed towards being on Reddit's side of the fight. The others, like us here, have already moved elsewhere, and some others still are boycotting the site. That means that our voices are not heard on Reddit anymore (not that I am interested in making my voice heard over thereβnot after I've gotten convinced that it doesn't matter).
The protests have succeeded in doing at least one thing: giving the people the push to move onto other alternatives. It also arguably succeeded in putting the highlight on the problems users have against Reddit. It also could probably be argued as spooking advertisers enough to put their campaigns on Reddit on a temporary hold.
In the end, it's just a matter of what you think the protests are aiming for, and to what extent. If you think the protests are such that Reddit gives in and relents on the API price spike, then yeah, sure, it failed hard. I think, however, that getting Reddit to relent is but a bonus.
You'll see some people comment that making all the content John Oliver will also drive traffic to the site because of the media coverage. This is true to some extent, but when that's all your content, people will get bored and move elsewhere. It will work if the way the subs are maliciously complying don't stop and a lot of subs join in.
Traffic to the site will increase because people are gawking at the trainwreck that Reddit is, and like gawking at burning wreckage, it gets boring eventually. As you've said, people will get bored and move elsewhere.
That, or it'd do a Twitter, attracting Musk-suckers enough to keep the traffic flowing.
Or maybe we're just doing wishful thinking here, lol! IDK.
Sabagay, buhay pa rin ang Twitter kahit sa dami ng kagaguhan na ginawa ni musk hahahaha. Importante lang na dumami ang subs na magparticipate, kasi pwede pumunta sa ibang subreddits ang mga bumisita para sa ginagawa ng r/pics at yung ibang subreddits.
Yeah.
However, to be honest, I do not care about what happens to Reddit beyond June 30th. It could do a Digg or a Twitter for all I care. I don't even care about getting people to migrate to alternatives too. I think Lemmy and Kbin combined already has enough people for organic growth on their own even without another wave of migrants. People just have to get used to a thinner, finite feed while more creators trickle in from elsewhere as the Threadiverse gets more traction.
That is to say, for me personally, I consider the protests a success even if only because they've got people to move here and to the other alternatives, giving them the traction they need to kickstart their own progress.
I agree I don't think its a failure either we all knew that reddit will not revert their decision. In back of our minds were probably thinking any alternative here. What I took from this protest made me realize there are other alternative to reddit. I was already aware of fediverse in general, but that was when twitter did their moment but I'm not a fan of those kind of social media. But being introduced with lemmy and creation of filipino community made the push to choose this as my main social media/forum.
Yes. Yun lang na na-expose tayo sa alternatibo sa Reddit malaking bagay na eh. But to be honest, I was also part of the migration to Voat a while back. It was not my proudest moment, but one of the communities I was in back then decided to move over there (to Voat). I didn't even participate over there once I've seen the kind of people I was with. Nakaka-walang-gana.
That's why I was one of the people who are skeptical of any Reddit alternatives. Napaso na ako sa Voat eh.
This time is different, however. Dun pa lang sa vibe na nadatnan ko dito, ibang-iba kaysa sa nadatnan ko sa Voat. I wasn't able to participate prior to the blackouts since nakikiramdam pa lang ako. And then here we are right now.
Sorry sa rant ah. But yeah, if there's one thing that the protests have achieved, it's making people aware that there are better alternatives out there.
I think lemmy gives the old school vibe of reddit. I think thats why people are somewhat fine with it. But time well tell if people willing to keep the engagement here.
From the threads I've seen, yeah, that's the consensus.
Ang talagang reklamo lang ng iba is yung lack of content, which I think eh mareresolba rin naman sa katagalan.