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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I can see the same thing happening with climate change; say we successfully avert it, you'll have all the lunatics on saying, "see?? There was nothing to worry about, we stressed and struggled for nothing!!1!"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh you know they will. It’s a guarantee… and I hope that winds up being the case because the alternative is a nightmare come true.

[–] thorbot 9 points 9 months ago

It’s been the reality for many years my friend

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Literally already done with the hole in the ozone layer

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's too late to wish for that. We've already emitted too much, and didn't slow enough in time to avert catastrophic climate change. We will likely live through it, but we'll suffer. And those in poorer, hotter countries will die en masse. Wars will likely happen as refugees flee countries now made inhospitable. Fascism will rise as richer countries, more able to weather the storms, become insular and focus on domestic issues to the detriment of the aforementioned refugees. Perhaps revolutions will happen. Extreme heatwaves, hurricanes, tsunamis, will threaten coastal and tropical cities, and island nations in particular, but even cooler countries will be stricken with fatal heatwaves, just less often.

None of this is "if" we miss some target. We already missed it. It is already set in stone. We can only do our best to ensure it doesn't get even worse than that. That's still not the worst possible outcome.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's the one thing we can't avert, only adapt to and mitigate. The time to avert was half a century earlier.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Damn we made the air breathable, the rivers clean and the animals happy for no reason