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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah it doesn’t work because resources are scarce. Then on a national scale only a few people have control over these scarce national resources. Which gives these people too much power. And often the people in control are sociopaths especially if they came in to power via a revolution aka a violent coup.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then on a national scale only a few people have control over these scarce national resources.

Then you have failed to implement communism. Why are you only giving a few people access?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What’s your fix? The same problem always crops up

[–] idunnololz 4 points 1 year ago

Just ban corruption /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand that. Let’s say everyone has access. Suddenly someone decides they want it all. Someone polices the amount people can take. Then they have the access and the process repeats

This was there same system imposed in communes. At scale, the threat of public shame is no longer enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone polices the amount people can take.

Nah

the community polices the amount people can take.

If you set aside a class of "protectors", you're just asking for trouble.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay, so people will always take more than they should. We see this time and again with quite literally every single power system. What do you propose we do to make sure everyone gets their share?

[–] Sunforged 2 points 1 year ago

Democratic centralism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why are you asking me to repeat myself? And also, why do you have so little faith in democracy? Bourgeois democracy, sure, but actual democracy of the people, with no bureaucracy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So everyone decides who gets what and when. What if you’re not really liked in your community? Personally I don’t really have faith in humanity in general

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So everyone decides who gets what and when

That makes it sound far more direct and personal. No, the community democratically decides how resources are distributed. And rules like "Dave can't have bananas" are too stupid to even consider in this.

What if you’re not really liked in your community

Why should that matter?

Personally I don’t really have faith in humanity in general

That's your own bias, and your own problem to deal with.