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submitted 1 year ago by Merlin13245 to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (60 children)

Just go buy your meat directly from a farmer that only raises a few each year and that lets the cows roam free, it's not impossible to buy meat that's much more ethical, you just have to accept the price that comes with it.

[+] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (48 children)

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Yeah but what about my cat? What about animals in the wild? How can we stop them from eating meat?

[–] whenigrowup356 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But what about you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But what about you?

"You're supposed to pretend that you're something speshul and above those filthy, disgusting and immoral animals!" - vegans.

EDIT, replying to a comment (from another poster? the same poster?) elsewhere. I think that it was answering this comment, but the thread got deleted so...

Yeah, not eating animals means we think we’re “above” them because that makes sense.

Yes, it does. Unless you also expect other omnivorous species and the carnivorous ones to refrain to eat meat… do you? (You don't.)

And yes, this makes sense even if it hurts your "precious, oooh so preeecious!" feelings of superiority over other animals.

Also some other animal killer here in the comments flat out said “humans are above animals, this is fact” but evil vegans think they’re above animals!

Whataboutism: “but what about what the other guy said?”, disingenuously shifting the focus from vegans to non-vegans. Also I’m not responsible for someone else’s statements.
False dichotomy: implying that a non-vegan putting himself over other animals automatically excludes vegans from doing the same.

The false dichotomy is so fucking dumb that it makes me think that you're implictly admitting to not have any actual argument at hand.

If you want a serious reply then bring up some something not so infested by fallacies as the above, otherwise I'll just keep laughing at you, "sorry".

(Arguably also loaded language but I’ll cut you some slack on that, given that it has some entertainment value.)

[–] whenigrowup356 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't say any of that stuff so I'm not going to try working through whatever knots of logic you're working yourself into over there. Hope your conversation with yourself goes well

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it relevant to the question I'm asking?

[–] whenigrowup356 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are your cat and animals in the wild relevant to your choices for yourself?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with you that it's a personal choice. I was replying to someone who seemed to imply that it wasn't, and was suggesting that someone who eats meat can just stop doing it. I think that, for some people or some cultures, transitioning to a vegan diet isn't that easy.

[–] whenigrowup356 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Er, sorry but I don't understand the distinction you seem to be making between a personal choice and something that you can just stop doing.

Choosing to partake in a culture is still a choice, yeah?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can think of a few cases where taking part in a culture is not entirely a personal choice. Peer pressure, tradition or religion sometimes deprives one of their freedom to choose.