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Nuclear power doesn't pay for itself apparently. Also it takes a very long time to even build a reactor. Wind and hydro are much cheaper to build and can be done rapidly.
Nuclear power only takes a long time due to government red tape pushed by idiot environmentalists (who, ironically, got major financial backing from oil corps). Literally most of the time taken to build nuclear is clearing regulatory hurdles. Also, you should see what shutting down nuclear in favor of wind has done to Germany. They literally had to go back and restart coal plants because, guess what, wind fucking sucks and Germany doesn't have the geography for hydro.
Oh, and the time to build nuclear can be further reduced (pending removal of red tape) by converting coal plants to nuclear. I think people forget a nuclear power plant is just a steam turbine powered by a hot rock, and a coal power plant is a steam generator powered by burning a rock. The majority of the construction is building the actual turbine component so you can literally just swap out the power source for said component.
It's this kind of nonsense conspiracy theories that really damage your side of the argument. Nuclear power plants are complex pieces of technologies that are very hard to get right, secure, and make safe. The idea that there is a cabal of massive corporations funding environmentalists to fight nuclear power is laughable.
Germany isn't the whole world. The fact that your entire stance is based only on what happened in Germany is undermining your advocacy.
no it's not just that. No wonder you think it's possible to build them cheap and fast.
/me writes long winded response, looks at it for a minute, deletes it.
Wow, this place is really starting to feel like home
I don't want anyone to feel like they can't comment, I know this post has got a bit unproductive in the conversation but it's an important topic and you should make the points you want.
Typically it happens when I'm not actually making a point and it's better to move on than spend the time required to sort out my thoughts.
I get what you mean, I do the same. I just don't want this place to end up like reddit where people don't want to comment or post.
Wind farms have been very successful in the UK but we are also quite a windy country. A lot of people are now on green tariffs so I feel as though it's moving in a good direction.
Wind farms have been a complete and total disaster in Germany, however. Also, the UK is not doing too hot either it's having to rely heavily on coal plants. Seems like every locale that decides to hedge its bets on wind rather than nuclear always has this issue where they have to use coal to make up for wind power's deficiencies.
Wind farms are a disaster in Germany because of bureaucracy. Not because they are not economic. Siemens Gamesa is doing quite well, despite not building many wind farms in Germany.