this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2023
64 points (80.2% liked)

Harry Potter

886 readers
1 users here now

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

And it really irks me a lot.

Update: Man, I have gotten tons of great responses here and a lot of activity. The comments section turned out way better than Reddit. Thank you all! <3

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was all so far fetched that they just kept on allowing obviously evil people, people who were opposed to the very ideals of the school, continue with their plots unchallenged. Then 2020 rolled around and I was like "oh... Well this feels familiar".

[–] orphiebaby 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This one bothered me pretty early. But I don't feel like the context given in the Harry Potter series would allow for anything like the corruption we see in real-life politics. For one, a couple people are professors of Hogwarts for power, but most are in it because they care about their jobs. There's no reason nobody stood up to Dolores— all students and professors hated her (except her new toady Filch, and maybe only a few Slytherin after she offered them power?) and Dolores was exerting power over the school that she simply didn't have. Any one of them could have just effed her up anytime for her literal, no joke Nazi rules and her torture. Let alone a full disgruntled school.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't she empowered by the ministry of magic, which was in turn controlled by money?

[–] orphiebaby 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Position, yes. Actual power to stop a bunch of angry, tortured teenage wizards— especially ones that have been learning to use defense magic in direct defiance of her— no. Also she pissed off all the professors, and they didn't stand up to her either, which is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That all comes back to the institutional power of the system. She was backed by what they all considered to be the legal government entity, so tolerated her, even though they could have physically overpowered her, despite knowing that what she was doing was wrong. Just like a lot of Americans in 2020.

[–] orphiebaby 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Wrong" isn't even a fraction of it. She kicked everyone off the grounds, changed all the rules, tortured students (and others knew it) and literally started hanging up Nazi rule plaques. It was a hostile takeover where she silenced, banned, and abused everyone. And you're going to tell me nobody— no students, no professors— are going to stand against her? Being appointed won't mean shit when you are literally torturing, backing into a corner, and banning an opposition with this much power and unhappiness. In any reasonable situation, they would fight back. She was just one stupid, powerless woman with no soldiers at her command against hundreds of powerful wizards and witches, many of them adults.

And stop comparing it to "2020". I don't even know what the eff that means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If they fight back, they’re go to Azkaban.

JK was writing about how evil happens is it comes from top. As such if the professors fought back, they’d be an enemy of the state and sent to Azkaban.

She was powerful because the system backed her. Had the anyone attacked her, aurors would have come to save her.

The 2020 reference is a lame attempt to attack Trump. The two are not comparable. Everything worked as it should have. So it’s the exact opposite of what JK was writing about.