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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Possibly. But wire cutters exist. Installing custom firmware for a car seems unnecessarily dangerous. Just remove the fuse, cut a wire or go to a local shop and get the comms system disabled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easier said than done when the car has an eSIM embedded who-knows-where

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which doesnt matter if the sim has no power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are you going to find the power supply if you don't know where it is? It's doubtful it will be on its own dedicated fuse supply.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you can't read your car's repair manual, pay a mechanic to do it for you. I doubt they will say no. Almost every manufacturer has a rapair manual.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a viable solution since this will likely result in your entire infotainment system or other features being unusable. Not having the radio in your car work or not having safety features work would suck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no tapes tablet to car. Anyways, why would you entire infotainment system not work? You would just have no internet connection. Radio doesn't work, yes, however most sane humans stream music anyways which is possible via bluetooth or, in case the comms module would also disable bluetooth, cable. Your choice, private sex life or ✨features✨.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because that's how they wire the cars. It's like when you block shit with pihole and it breaks basic functionality. At least with pihole you can fine tune which domains you block. When you cut a wire, you power down the entire thing.

Guess what happens when you connect your phone to your car via bluetooth? Data collection! Most of the data collection happens from phones bro. You're literally better off leaving the car alone and simply NEVER connecting your phone, unless it's with an aux cable.

You don't have to lecture me about privacy vs. Features. I fully get it. I value privacy very much. All I'm saying is that it will likely fuck up car features that you want if you randomly start cutting cables.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the data collection does not happen from my phone bRoO. I use Graphene and if I don't give my foss music app access to the internet, the app can collect as much data as it wants. Besides, what do I care if someone knows what music I listen to if in comparison the car manufacturer, who I likely gave my personal information to first hand, knows things far more private. I don't have sex in my car, but if I did I would much rather have them know that I listen to "I'm a barbie girl" on repeat. And I doubt that cutting off connection will brick your car. If that was the case, my car would brick almost every time I enter a tunnel. The car does not check for connections like an effing website. If the comms were to be completely disabled or one would remove a fuse, sure. Your car might refuse to start, throw an error what have you. But if you simply remove the antenna, all bueno. Wanna know why they don't refuse service without a connection? Because people would regularly die which makes this behaviour illegal :). And I do have to lecture you, as you seem to have a lot to learn and I don't see a reason why anybody should put their pride first. I mean don't even know anybody on here.

Oh and I did not say to randomly cut cables. I said to cut antennas. Do not under any circumstance cut a cable. It might be the windshield wipers or it might be a sensor for abs. You are absolutely correct that this is the worst idea one could have if they value their life. Well I mean no life means no privacy concerns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just remove the fuse, cut a wire or go to a local shop and get the comms system disabled.

You literally said "cut a wire" in your original response...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, never downvoted my own comment before. Other points still stand. And yes, just to make sure, to anyone reading, do not just randomly start cutting wires.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, never downvoted my own comment before

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