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Perhaps this is a cultural thing, but doublespeak seems to be prevalent even in casual conversation

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

1984 was doublethink, not doublespeak

[โ€“] xanu 11 points 1 year ago

"War is Peace" is doublespeak; an inherent contradiction. Anybody can say it and still see the contradiction and believe that it isn't true. Doublethink is the internalization of that doublespeak. A Party member says it and sees no contradiction. Deep in their hearts, they understand that to be in a never ending war is to experience neverending peace.

All that to say that doublespeak was certainly a thing in the novel, as it labours on the distinction between doublespeak and doublethink.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe OP didnโ€™t just read it then. Maybe, like me, they read it years ago and misremembered