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Just curious what the oldest game is that you've played, and whether you enjoyed it or not. I'm less interested in the technical experience, so you can use the original release date, even if you played a more modern implementation.

For me, Fate/stay night just barely beats Clannad, by a few months. Both were released in 2004, and both show their age a little bit (Clannad in its convoluted branching, Fate in its resolution options), but are perfectly playable. But of course both are super popular classics, so I wonder if you all had similar experiences with more obscure or older titles.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

for me it is Tsukihime (if you enjoyed fate and especially it's darker side this will be right up your alley) it is made by Type moon as their first VN and definitely shows it's age now; but if you can look past it's technical issues it is truly a masterpiece. I read the original VN which was released in 2000 and my profile pic is of one of the girls from that VN.

there's the "sequels" plus disk and Kagetsu Tohya as well as a spin-of fighting game you might have heard of called Melty Blood. and this is the VN responsible for spawning the creature known as neco arc.

PS: I made a community specifically for Tsukihime and it's directly related media if you want to discuss it [here ([email protected])](https://iusearchlinux.fyi/c/tsukihime) and I made a post going over where to start reading if you are interested in picking it up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tsukihime is definitely on my radar, every time I see the "not quite Saber" girl it catches my eye, in almost an uncanny valley sort of way lol. If the UX is approximately as good as Fate then it would be no problem, although it seems like it's not voice acted, which is a bit of a shame. I know Fate wasn't originally voice acted either, but to me the voice acting work is one of the best parts of the game.

In any case, it's always fun to see a dedicated fan of a single series, and thanks for your suggestion. And as a slight aside, I've still gotta figure out my profile picture for this site. I don't quite know what kinda impression I want to give yet =)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I had to retype this entire comment as my browser froze near the end of it , anyhow here we go again.

every time I see the “not quite Saber” girl it catches my eye

That's gonna be Arcueid (the non-neco neco-arc), she's the poster girl of the VN. Her design is similar to Saber in more ways than one and it is even more ~~horrible ~~obvious in the remake.

If the UX is approximately as good as Fate then it would be no problem, although it seems like it’s not voice acted

OG Tsuki does not have good UX, ONScripter is downright primitive compared to Kirikiri and has next to no real styling options. Another thing to note is that Tsukihime was originally made right off the heels of Kara no Kyoukai with little budget. Tsukihime pretty much built Type Moon as a company to the point that the name "Type Moon" itself is a reference to Tsukihime. That said all of this is something you'll quickly get used to and by the time I made it to the second hook (~2h in) I was too captivated by the story to really care about this aspect of the VN.

That said, if the UX and lack of voice acting make it really unplayable you can start with the remake (although you will have to jump through some hoops in order to read it in english) and it does alter things quite a bit. Another thing of note is that the remake is going to be 2 games with the current game only being the first 2 routes (referred to as the "near side" routes) and no date for the second game has been given as of yet. I'd definitely say to give the original game a proper try and see from there.

In any case, it’s always fun to see a dedicated fan of a single series

I'm not just dedicated to Tsukihime, there's a good few other series I really like; but I haven't done too much in regards to those here yet, another aspect is that it is a really good VN that besides the manga doesn't have any adaption the community almost memed out of existence (if you thought the DEEN Stay Night adaptation was considered bad you're in for a ride). What I really like about Tsukihime though is that it doesn't spend it's time explaining every detail of the world and magic system (there is some exposition; but nowhere near what Fate has) and expects you to pick up on these details yourself.

PS: depending on how you interpret the question above Tsukihime may not be the oldest VN as that would go to Mahoutsukai no Yoru even though it's never been properly released until it's VN remake in 2012.