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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incorrect. The position of the Romanian government was very much that the first drone didn't hit them:

The Romanian Defence Ministry said Romania was not hit.

"The ministry of defence categorically denies information from the public space regarding a so-called overnight situation during which Russian drones would have fallen in Romania's national territory," it said.

"At no time did Russia's means of attack generate direct military threats on Romanian national territory or waters."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you even talking about? You said that the Romanian government said it wasn't intentional, not that it didn't happen. I then linked you to a direct quote from them saying it didn't happen. They categorically denied that it happened. Why the hell are you still arguing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No. They denied that a drone hit them. To deny that something is an attack, you have to first admit that something happened that could be interpreted as an attack. Like a drone hitting your soil. They denied that that happened.

Do you just not understand what you're reading? Is that the problem? You said: "keywords means of attack", which makes me think that you think that "means of attack" is somehow a signifier for your point. Which, it's not. You just don't understand what that means.

"Means of attack" in this case means a drone. If Ukraine had claimed that Russia accidentally hit Romanian territory with a missile, then "means of attack" would be a missile.

The full sentence, then, with translation (since you apparently don't understand what it means), is:

β€œAt no time did Russia’s means of attack [drone] generate direct military threats [cause damage, or impact, or explode] on Romanian national territory or waters. [within Romanian borders]”

Which is saying the exact same thing that the pithy one line summary from the article said above this quote:

The Romanian Defence Ministry said Romania was not hit.

Romania denied that a drone hit them. End of story.