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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

See, you're talking like 3000+ acres is a lot on the global scale, and it just isn't. You could literally cover a few fields that grow better in indirect light, produce more from your crops, and supply the global requirements for electricity. Seriously, just 5 square miles is over 3000 acres.

The only good argument against solar or wind is matching load against production, and that one is becoming less relevant all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Compared to a hundred acres? Meaning the other 2,900 acres could be preserved in some form of natural state? That absolutely is a lot when you consider the energy needs of a modern country. The fact you're acting like that's not a valid argument just proves how ignorant you are.

Growing crops under a solar array does not justify your inability to comprehend land size/use. Corn? Fine, that works with indirect. Soy and rice do not though. So 2 of the 3 most widely grown crops would be hindered by that plan.

So instead of destroying major crops with the ridiculous idea of building thousands of acres of solar panels, or tens of thousands of acres of wind turbines, we should focus on the much smaller impact of nuclear energy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You keep coming back to that one single argument you seem to have with space requirements, which several people have explained to be ridiculous, and you just keep repeating it? Do you have any idea about the scale of a country vs that of a solar park?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Because that was the discussion, the amount of energy produced by nuclear vs other clean means and the amount of area dedicated for each to produce the same.

There are very few ignorantly disagreeing with this easy to prove fact, you being one of them. I do understand scale of a country, and the space required to power it via reactors saves hundreds of thousands of acres when compared to solar and wind.

Go Google the required acreage for each and educate yourself. You're the one being ridiculous by attempting to call me out for "one single argument" and then continuing to prove you have no real concept of size and scale.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The discussion is not whether solar needs more space per energy produced, (and it does, nobody is disputing that), the discussion is if the area difference is relevant in the first place. And there have points been made why it is not, namely:

  1. You can cover area that is not natural anyways: parking lots, rooftops, farmland that does not need strong direct sunlight

  2. There is so much space in a country compared to that needed for solar that or just does not matter. Obviously you don't go and remove forests to put solar panels there

  3. Plenty of space isn't arable in the first place, so what's the point of not putting solar there? Protecting the sensitive desert?

@GreyEyedGhost even gave you an actually ok argument against wind/solar, maybe try that one?

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