Atheist Memes

Consensus does matter when it’s a consensus of experts in a specific field.

Can experts be wrong, yes or no?

When I look at evolution, I follow the consensus of evolutionary biologists.

We have evidence of evolution. Evidence that you can gain access to and verify for yourself. Frankly this is theist logic right here. The consensus of people who have studied the Bible is that Jesus was the literal son of god. Do you follow that consensus as well or only the ones that support your view?

When I look at the historicity of Jesus, I follow the consensus of historical scholars who study that era. I’m not an expert myself, so I have to trust someone else. I think that’s true for everyone outside of their expertise.

You trust, I will verify. Which one of us is being a better skeptic here, the person who puts faith in others to tell them what happened or the person looking at the actual evidence?

I think that’s true for everyone outside of their expertise.

I am a specialized worker and if you came to my work I can show you exactly the evidence that went into every single decision I made. There is no magic, nothing up my sleeve, no demands of trust. Just evidence.

Plus I would probably agree with you that if a “scholar” believes that Jesus did miracles, I wouldn’t trust that scholar.

But the ones that confirmed what you already believed you would trust and not verify? Do you know what expert shopping is?

All I’m saying is that most likely, some guy named Joshua was baptised and crucified, and in between probably did some preaching that inspired a religion.

What evidence did you use to make that determination?

Given that this is the consensus view by experts on the subject,

Again. I am not interested in consensus, I am interested in what is true.

the onus is on others to provide evidence that this isn’t the case.

In that case every atheist should give up now because the consensus is that there is a god and it is up to us to disprove it, which we can't do. The burder of proof is always on the person making the claim how common the claim is does not remove that burden.

But acknowledging that this is the case doesn’t threaten my belief in materialism.

Alright? Does that make the claim true?