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this btw is why we now see some of the TPOT rationalists microdosing street meth as a substitute. also that they're idiots, of course.

somehow this man still has a medical license

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Ok. But this part is pretty reasonable:

Think about how wasteful all of this is. We throw people in jail for using Adderall without a prescription. We expel them from colleges. We fight an expensive and bloody War on Drugs to prevent non-prescription-holders from getting Adderall. We create a system in which poor people need to stretch their limited resources to make it to a psychiatrist so they can be prescribed Adderall, in which people without health insurance can never get it at all, in which DEA agents occasionally bust down the doors of medical practices giving out Adderall illegally.

It's absolute bullshit that I can't buy amphetamine at my corner store if I want to. Yes, it's probably bad in the long-run. But I fucking want it.

Edit to add more substance: I also believe without evidence that "ADHD" is a lingering result of the transition of humanity to a sedentary lifestyle, but some are better equipped to deal with it than others. The whole binary of "You have ADHD" and "You don't" is utter nonsense made up by the prohibition state to justify medicating people with amphetamine.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

as a long-term supporter of the idea that folk should be able to just get high if they want to, it’s incredibly hard to square my beliefs with the existence of a person like Scott, especially having directly dealt with the outcomes of Scott’s advice amongst folks I have worked with

in general, the capitalist idea that even getting high needs to have utility has led to the normalization of some of the worst drug culture I’ve ever seen, from the can of worms that is lifestyle microdosing to some much worse shit than that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I haven't finished the video yet but wow, that was truly shocking. I used to think that psychedelic experiences nudge people to be "better" in some abstract sense that I will not define, but now I see that what I thought was completely wrong.

Education, not prohibition is still my stance; for every Scott encouraging people to take amphetamine, there should be someone who can eloquently describe how it turns you into a soulless focused monster who disregards everything except the goal of the minute, including pesky concerns such as hydration, nutrition, and social interaction. Just like everything else, it's a tool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, amphetamine is as different from psychedelics (such as LSD and psilocybin) as cocaine is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s true, if you’re not careful extended reliance on acid and mushrooms can make you an even more annoying megalomaniac

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