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[–] Redex68 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean, I like replaceable batteries and I try to repair everything I can that I own so that it lasts longer (I even replaced the battery in my wireless earbuds' case, doubling its lifetime so far), but swappable batteries have major downsides. Waterproofing is one, but a major thing is space. Sealed batteries don't need protection, but replaceable batteries do, and that increases their size by a lot. The last phones I've had probably couldn't even fit a replaceable battery inside of them how slim they are. So you either have to make phones much larger, or you have to reduce battery capacity. You also probably couldn't have metal backs and would have to return to plastic ones.

Some of these problems could be fixed but it'd make phones cost even more.

I don't know the answer to this, we should make phones more easily repairable, but I don't feel like this is the right way. Maybe mandating that phones can be repaired more easily by repair technicians and make the batteries more easily available. But I don't know how you could enforce that.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's gonna be easier to achieve than I believe, but I don't see how it's going to be possible without major downsides.

[–] damipereira 2 points 2 years ago

I agree, there are some things which are different for stupid reasons (looking at you lighting port), but others actually make sense. I think forcing companies to provide official support for technicians, and to not block third party spare parts would be good enough. Allow my local technician to use a random chinese battery after the official ones stop being produced, or keep producing batteries for at least 10 years after a phone's release.

Even better, they could standardize batteries and battery sizes, needing to swap out the battery might mean a lot of downsides, but having a set of standard batteries that you build your phone around might not be that bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a "sealed" phone (gotta use a heatgun to melt glue off to remove the back) and the battery is easily replaceable once it's opened. maybe what you're saying is true for some battery designs, but not for mine (or my last non-replaceable-battery one before that).

[–] Redex68 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A phone with a back that's glued on isn't user repairable by normal standards. User repairable means easy and that anybody can do it, using a heat gun to melt glue is too much to expect from an average Joe. I'd say soldering is easier in some cases and that isn't considered user repairable.

If you had an easily removable back cover then you would have to have a protected battery, else it would be a major safety issue.

But I do agree with you, something like that would be optimal, where you don't need 500 steps just to remove the battery. Having the battery easily removable so that any regular technician can replace it for cheap should be the goal.

But I don't know how you would enforce that.