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No no, that's a farse and a uniquely human construct. Name me even one other species of creature that utilizes anything even remotely similar to money to survive...
We don't need money to survive, we just submit ourselves to the government that orders us to use it.
Edit: I guess the downvoters don't understand any other way of life, like owning a piece of dirt you can live on and grow your own farm and survive self sufficiently...
And yeah it sucks, I'm not in a self sufficient area myself anymore, because government and corporations have taken that from most of us.
Gotta pay mortgage, land tax, rent, electric, water, sewer, internet, phone, etc...
Somehow the rest of the creatures survive without money.
Other species don't need clean water, clothes, complex tools and growing food. This makes their life simpler yet limits their number and habitat.
Try to live in a village growing own food. It's a hard work, especially if you have cattles or other domestic animals. Villagers work from early morning to evening because there's a lot things to do. Living in a city is much easier.
Is it not true though that this is seasonal and overall people that live this way work less than the average person living a modern life?
It is not like you get home from work and have no chores etc. Realistically a lot of the work these people do is something that a person with a house would call chores / upkeep.
Are you trolling?
If you’re not trolling, I would point out that modern (knowledge) workers work a lot, sure. But harder or more than farmers and laborers? No way.
He’s not trolling, but my guess is he read Sapiens and that’s his current gospel.
I don’t deny that the labour is physically harder, I’ve worked in my life retail, office and landscaping, I know that physical labour is tough. Though hard overall is subjective, I undoubtedly hated and found most every other job harder than my stint of about a year in landscaping, which was physically very taxing. The landscaping gig might have been the favorite job I’ve ever had.
But, no, I am not talking about people who work as farmers / labourers commercially, but instead the question is mostly about self sustained homestead / village living.
Growing uo I had small scale farmers in my family and had a countryside house where I knew a lot of the beighbours who lived there full time. Generally they seemed to have a couple of bursts of work during a day but most of the day was slowly and steadily attending to one or another chore / upkeep task
I would vager people living this way actually work far less hours in a given year than a person living a modern capitalist life, especially if you factor upkeep you have to do for your house after work etc, even if we assume a 40 hour work week, which lets face it, the average person probably exceeds (64 hours for me, personally).