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Lemmy Project Priorities Observations

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I've raised my voice loudly on meta communities, github, and created new [email protected] and [email protected] communities.

I feel like the performance problems are being ignored for over 30 days when there are a half-dozen solutions that could be coded in 5 to 10 hours of labor by one person.

I've been developing client/server messaging apps professionally since 1984, and I firmly believe that Lemmy is currently suffering from a lack of testing by the developers and lack of concern for data loss. A basic e-mail MTA in 1993 would send a "did not deliver" message back to message sender, but Lemmy just drops delivery and there is no mention of this in the release notes//introduction on GitHub. I also find that the Lemmy developers do not like to "eat their own dog food" and actually use Lemmy's communities to discuss the ongoing development and priorities of Lemmy coding. They are not testing the code and sampling the data very much, and I am posting here, using Lemmy code, as part of my personal testing! I spent over 100 hours in June 2023 testing Lemmy technical problems, especially with performance and lost data delivery.

I'll toss it into this echo chamber.

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Lemmy instance Beehaw staff on Monday, August 21 2023....
https://beehaw.org/comment/1018508

"From where I’m standing, I can’t really much has changed unfortunately… which really sucks…

Lemmy.world has grown substantially meanwhile the moderation tools have not improved at all. All I can say about the moderation tools is that we now know that the tools suck more than they used to.

Here’s a list of moderation problems that we have discovered since then:

  • If a Berson is reported on another instance, we never get the report.
  • If a mod is banned from the community they mod, they can still take mod actions
  • If you get site-banned from Beehaw while you are from another instance, you can still post on the community and people from that instance and kbin can see your posts
  • People from other instances can’t know who if someone is an admin on the instance they’re interacting with
  • People from other instances can’t see when we use the shield function to signal we’re talking “officially / as a mod”
  • The modlog is not chronological
  • The modlog breaks if you ban someone for more than 4 digit days.

A banned user’s description is still visible so if they link to a scat image in their description, it is still visible to moderators. Despite these newly known problems, there have been exactly no improvement whatsoever to the moderation tools. It is honestly unsettling and terrifying."

Context: Lemmyy has been on GitHub and in production at Lemmy.ml for over 4 years for the purposes of running and moderating a message forum / link aggregator. Beehaw has been online for over a year before the May 2023 Reddit influx.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Given the struggle with PostgreSQL that the project has had for 4 years, and the two main developers both admit they are not good with SQL relational database... the classic answer would be to use what is called "NoSQL database" solutions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoSQL

Interesting to the whole May 2023 situation... Reddit itself was open source code in 2008 and used PostgreSQL database that Lemmy uses! Reddit creators gave a presentation in May 2010 about how to scale a link aggregator website like Lemmy and they advised to basically use NoSQL techniques with PostgreSQL. https://www.infoq.com/news/2010/05/7-Lessons-Reddit/