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Besides Thunderbird, is there any good desktop mail client for Windows that doesn't involve uploading mail to a cloud first?

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[–] dot20 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that's why I'm explicitly noting that they're not FOSS, doofus. Besides, if you're using Windows anyway, using its built-in email client is not a huge stretch.

[–] Asudox 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, yes. But why would I want my emails also to go through the spyware OS. What you're saying sounds like "you're already using a OS that tracks everything, giving them your emails at this point wouldn't hurt."

[–] dot20 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could already have access to your emails, because… you’re running their OS. They can slip in any code they want and run it with NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM-level privileges (comparable to root-level privileges on Linux systems).

If you run any other OS you’ll also have to trivially trust the makers of that OS with root-level privileges (or comparable).

(Personally I don’t believe that MS is scanning all your local emails, but they certainly have the technical possibilities to do so very trivially.)

[–] Asudox -3 points 1 year ago

They could, but we don't know. Not using their mail app at least makes that a possibility.

[–] wmassingham 1 points 1 year ago

But why would I want my emails also to go through the spyware OS

Beats me, but you're the one using Windows, so...

If your email provider offers a webmail client, then you might give that a shot, though it's still going to run under Windows.